LG32LP1R / Samy32R71B / Toshi32WL66P

It's up to you to decide, which TV has the best picture. The usual suspects:

Sony 32 V2000
Panasonic 32LX60 (in my eyes one of the best pictures)
Samsung 32R71 or 72 (next to panasonic my favourite)
Toshiba WL66 has a lot of quality issues and flaws and no warranty in Germany....
Philips 32PF9830 (full HD screen, but pretty expensive, state of the art)
JVC 32X70 or M60, some love them, others less
LG is hard to find in Switzerland, so I have not seen any live

What are your demands?: Only TV, DVD? For gaming they all should be good. If u want to use it with ur computer, I'd tend to Samsung, Sony or LG to avoid overscan.

Hoousi, thank you very much! You can write in german if you want. I understand german.

1.) I am Sony fan regarding TVs but I don*t like what I see in Sony LCD area right now. Picture is everything but natural.

2.) I must see Panasonic 32LX60 although Panasonic color temperature is again faar away from my taste.

3.) Best LCD picture I have seen so far was on LG 32LP1R followed closely by Samsung LE32R71. Colors are better on LG. Sound is aufull with Samsung but I have High-End audio equipment so that is no big problem.

4.) Have read lot of good rewievs about Toshiba LCDs and also heard for quality problems?

5.) JVC is not good enough for my eyes.

6.) Philips is ultra expensive, I agree, and not so much better from LG that I should spend 500€ extra on it.

Let*s hope to read many responses regarding this topic?

As I see, your choice pretty much fell on the LG, your eyes decide. In this forum I mostly read positive reviews of this TV, so I do not see any reason from refraining. Or u can do it like me, 6 weeks ago I took my decision (R72 or Pana LX60), that the one dropping first below the 2000 Swiss Franc bareer will be mine (Pana beat Samy by one week.. ), and I'm happy. The Toshiba was one of my favourites, but I don't spend that much on bad assembling quality.

Actualy my decision isn*t fell yet on any brand from above three. The point is that new Toshiba realy has super reviews regarding picture and sound but also many bad reviews regarding built quality. I would also say that new Toshiba 32WL66P is not as good as old 32WL58P. OK, it has faster switching, 8ms, but that*s all. Side wieving angle is also very bad.

Samsung 32R71B has super design, very good if not the best side wieving angle, very good blacknes, colours tend to go to the red/brown direction - they are generaly good though, very bad sound - it*s a product of super design ...

LG has generaly super reviews and with picture running out of original LG video generator it*s unbeatable. But that can be very missleading, of course. Also new LG models are not so good regarding built quality as 32LP1R. I am 100% shure of that.

I must see myself this Panasonic TX-32LX60F you are talking about, Hoousi, althou as I said before, Panasonic colour temperature is generaly not to my taste. It*s to cold.

So I am asking others here on forum, who have done similar comparisons, to tell us their views. It can be that I am very much wrong?

the sammy it the best of the three..

@ HighDefDoug

Nö, der Pana!

Hoousi schrieb:

@ HighDefDoug Nö, der Pana! :P

laber nich..

Hi guys,

don*t kill each other! Mister HDD, why is SAMSUNG best LCD-TV. You have one at home? Have you compared them all?

Thanx!

hi,yes i'have the samsung at home and he is very good.the blackness and the kontrast is better than the others tv's.
the picture-quality is top,only a little bit behind the philips 9830 (the best of all for my eyes..!)

PS: sorry,my english is not good..

MfG HDD

HDD, now I see you had TOSHIBA WL58 before SAMSUNG R72 and you can realy tell us which one is better. areaDVD.de says Toshiba is better than Samsung. But they are sellers, you are user! So, to your experience, is Samsung better than Toshiba or worse? Tell us, please, how would you describe quality of standard 576 4:3 picture on both LCDs. Some are saying that Samsung De-Interlacer (Rechner) is not as good as Toshiba*s? That there is big diference. Is this true?

yes,i'had the toshiba wl58p before i buy the samsung r71/72 and for me is the samsung really better than the toshiba (for example the picture->blackness and contrast,advantage evening).the sound of the samsung is not so good,but for me not important.of course,at own experience.
the standard signal (pal,576p) is on both lcds good,not perfect.but the samsung is bigger (Sammy 40"->Toshi 37"),but i' see not more errors than the toshiba!
the de-interlacer..mhm..yes,i know,the toshiba has a faroudja-chip inside,is good.what have the sammy inside,i don't know!? but i saw not mistakes ..

MfG HDD

HighDefDoug schrieb:

Toshiba has a Faroudja-chip inside, it*s good. What have Sammy inside, I don't know!? But i saw no mistakes ..

That*s important !!

ich abtorte jetzt mal in deutsch..vestehst du ja ganz gut,wie du oben geschrieben hast..
wie gesagt,was der sammy verbaut hat weiss ich n icht,habe bisher aber kein unterschied feststellen können..

HDD, you should buy yourself better SAT receiver. Humax FOX has many limitations. I have Humax 5400 but for you Kaon KSF-230 FTA (65€) would do much better as Fox. If you want HDMI output and HD mpeg4 DVBS2 you should wait for Kaon KS620HD.

ja ich weiss,der pr-fox ist kein high end receiver.allerdings schaue ich auch nur 1-2mal/woche über den receiver,nämlich wenn ich fussball oder formel 1 am wochenende gucke.und dafür reichts (vorerst..)

hi Cefizelj,
first of all the Humax 5400 and the Kaon KSF-230 FTA are both digital satellite receivers, the Humax Pr-Fox-C is a cable receiver.
It's a pity that there are pretty few cable receivers out by now.

but back to the tv's
I myself have a LG 37LP1R.
even as a very demanding viewer, I'm quite satisfied with it, especially in terms of dvd picture quality.
I have a DENON DVD 5900 (german DVD-A11).
via dvi input I have an excellent picture qualitiy in this field.

the tv performance via analogue cable is ok- good and depends on the programms.
the picture of the built in tv-tuner is not the sharpest for my eyes.
for me, it's really a bit "curdeled".
it's not so hard or sharp like on other tv's but very natural.
that's what you want anyway and what I prefer too.
the "last" sharpness is the only small problem in my eyes with the lg.

the lp1r has a pretty good black level (0,29cd/m²).
in that point samsung and toshiba seem to be worse(0,46/0,44).

the lg's built quality is excellent the design perfect.
I like it even more than the samsung.

time to switch programms is not so good. it takes a little bit too long.
I don't know what it's like with the sammy, the toshi isn't much faster.

LG has generaly super reviews and with picture running out of original LG video generator it*s unbeatable. But that can be very missleading, of course. Also new LG models are not so good regarding built quality as 32LP1R. I am 100% shure of that.

I agree absolutely with you, especially what the built quality and this special "Japan presentation box" concern.
the picture via this box is overwhelming
I only know 1 real review here in germany.
one publishing house serves its three magazines with almost the same information and test results.
so it's hard to tell if one can really rely on this "tests".
but overall I think the lg is really one of the best lcd's on the scene.

p.s.: I now tried the lp1r with a digital cable receiver.
(sagem d-box2).
there's no great step ahead at first.
I'm even a little bit disappointed in this way.
i hoped to improve the sharpness.
maybe it's a small step forward even in this point.
I really can recommend this tv now, especially for the current price.

Ups, I didn*t noticed Fox to be "C" - Cable receiver? You are right, Americo.

I would say LG will come out with new High-End LCD-TV later this year as "new" current models are no match for LP1 series.

I know for super blacknes of LP1, 0.29cdm/m2, have made few comparisons regarding this topic with Samsung LE32R71 and noticed Samsung to be better in real action with real TV signal. Samsung blacknes was dark black while LG was tending to the blue side and was not totaly dark. But then with signal out of LG Stream Generator LG was much better than Samsung. In this case Samsung blacknes was tending to the blue side and LG was super black. God knows which one is realy better?

hi Cefizelj,

I only can compare the test results an the numbers taken from these tests.
I didn't have the chance to compare the tv's side by side.
you really had the chance to see the samsung with the lg box?
the retailers here told me they are not allowed to use these boxes with other tv's.
it's a fundamental problem with the black level:
I just compared a panasonic 37PV60E with a Toshiba 37Wl66P at my retailer.
the black of the toshi was much deeper a real dark black, whereas the pana tended a little bit into grey in dark picture parts.
but in this "grey" there where a lot of things, you couldn't see on the toshi.
a lot of details disappeared in the black parts and you couldn't adjust the toshi so that you had a better black label without loosing details.
so people here in the forum always tend to take e.g. the black (grey) side bars on the panels as a sign for the black level.
I don't think that really works.
well, I don't know which one is better, I think both of them are good tv sets together with some others like the toshis, panas...
I'm afraid there is not "BEST" in all respects.