Need to buy speakers- urgent

Rahul,
Like I said before, the Quad 12L are the best in the lot. If I remember clearly, What Hi-Fi in Nov 2003 copared several speakers which included Quad 12L, Dynaudio 52 and Wharfedale Evo 30. These 3 were the finalist among the 8-9 speakers. But they chose the Quad 12L as the best.

I second milpai here. If you are adamant on buying from this list, the quad 12L and Audience 52 tops the list. The audience 52 is a good contender because you have a high current rotel 100watts per channel amp. People usually shy away from dynaudios as they are very power hungry and quite difficult to drive with usual integrated amps. With an amp like the rotal, there are sonic benefits to be had with the dynaudios. I would say that you may get better bass response with the dynaudios but slightly better mids with the quads. So it is your choice. Try and listen and decide. Trust your ears only.

Jamo is definitely out of question in this list. But to choose from Quad12l and Dynaudio audience52, the Dyns are definitely much better all rounders whereas Quad being very specific to Vocals and Classical kind of music.

Looking at your choice of Amp I would definitely expect that Dynaudios would give you much better Satisfaction than the Quad.
Listen to them repeatedly for longer sessions with your type of music and then you can easlily decide between them as they are NOT similar speakers.

abhi.pani schrieb:

Jamo is definitely out of question in this list. But to choose from Quad12l and Dynaudio audience52, the Dyns are definitely much better all rounders whereas Quad being very specific to Vocals and Classical kind of music. Looking at your choice of Amp I would definitely expect that Dynaudios would give you much better Satisfaction than the Quad. Listen to them repeatedly for longer sessions with your type of music and then you can easlily decide between them as they are NOT similar speakers. ;)

My two cents: The Dynaudios have a very bad sense of timing for their price. I have noticed this time and again. This was first pointed out to me doing an AB with a pair of PSB B25, a budget speaker. I advice you to keep a keen ear on this aspect when u audition the audience 52s.

I do not know about the timing error. Have noticed this in different setups ?
We once did a comparison of the audience 52 SE with the Linn Katan bookshelf speaker and everybody including a few very senior audiophiles liked the Katan better. We had the Bryston monoblocks driving them.

This is on a very basic NAD setup. C320 BEE/and 512 CDP.

Well, the dynaudios (although some are in the budget range) definitely needs far better amplification. They sound muddy with lesser amps. This is the reason why most stay away from them. With the monoblocks they were pretty alright but we liked the katans better although they were much cheaper than the SE’s.

Guess so. But the PSBs were bang on as regards to timing. (As bang on as you can get in that budget.) The dyns just couldn't match that. The bass guitar was somewhere else the drummer was doing something else. Totally out of sync. Liked the tonality of the Dyns better though!

sharukh....you noticed that too with the dynes ?
I noticed the same playing a few old time swing music tracks. A lot of speakers within the 1 lac range I have heard have had this problem.....

Thats one of the reasons I like my arita's so much....timing is really very very good.

Manek.

The above range is Tooo diverse and if you are not careful you will end up with a compromise and hence further upgrades !
There are too many speakers in that price range..and everyone will say the speaker they own/like are the best so you need to take your unbiased decision

My feeling from my experience
Choosing spekers for an Amp is always a compromise.. you need to do it the other way around ie decide on the budget and then choose the speakker you like the sound of the most and then the amp to drive it. (Unless of course you already own the Amp)

Basic questions for this for which you need answers are:

1. What Kind of Music do you listen to ?
2. What is your room size ?
3. Details of room orientation and any constraints to speaker placement.
4. Is your preference for a Warm setup (aka laid back) or for more details and forward (aka Bright)

Once you are clear on the above and you fix your budget , then you can audition speakers.

YOu need to take oyur own decisions in the end as everyone judges speakers by their own ears and have theior own expectations !

(for eg, in my case.
-I found Dyns very good for their price and noticed neither muddiness or timing issues
- I find Quads too laiadback and not capable of bass ..the way I like it etc etc.. but then there are so many folks who think differently as they have different needs and they are not too wrong !)

So moral of story you can ask for any amount of advice but the decision has to be taken by you or you will end up wishing ruefully:).

Way forward you can start by answering the above questions and lets see if we can suggest any speakers with the requirements you are looking for in that price range !

Shahrukh schrieb:

Guess so. But the PSBs were bang on as regards to timing. (As bang on as you can get in that budget.) The dyns just couldn't match that. The bass guitar was somewhere else the drummer was doing something else. Totally out of sync. Liked the tonality of the Dyns better though!

Dear Shahrukh
I guess you heard this on Bill Clinton's favourite band ,Right?
Regards Deaf.

I cannot comment on the Dyns, as I have not auditioned that particular model. But the same conclusion (as Sharukh and Manek) was reached on the test by What Hi-Fi..on Devdaas music. The Quads are fast. I use my Quads for Classical and Jazz and luv the way they "show" the soundstage.

When I auditioned the 12Ls, I did not find them natural bass shy, for their size. I visited more than 12 dealers in the Bay Area (from San Francisco to San Jose) and chose my components. The other speakers that I liked were the Dali Helicon, Dali Euphonia series, Totem Rainmakers and Theil PCS. But they overshoot your budget.

Point is..since you are already here in the US, use this opportunity to get the best out of your money. Most dealers are open on saturday and few on Sundays after 10:00am to 6:00pm.

Guys I finally ordered the 11Ls today as the dealer did not have the 12Ls in stock and I did not have time. I got it for $520 inclusive of shipping and tax. The dealer stays far away and is the only one who stocks it in Florida.
Thanks for all the help and the inputs you have given. I can't wait to get home and hear them.

Now just sit and wait to be pleasently surprised. Allow atleast 50-100 hours break-in period - though they sound good out of the box

deaf schrieb:

Shahrukh schrieb: Guess so. But the PSBs were bang on as regards to timing. (As bang on as you can get in that budget.) The dyns just couldn't match that. The bass guitar was somewhere else the drummer was doing something else. Totally out of sync. Liked the tonality of the Dyns better though! Dear Shahrukh I guess you heard this on Bill Clinton's favourite band ,Right?

Didn't quite get that one, deaf

Guys I finally ordered the 11Ls today as the dealer did not have the 12Ls in stock and I did not have time. I got it for $520 inclusive of shipping and tax.

Congrats panditr. Now just sit back and enjoy them.